Fruit & citrus tree spikes for grape vines
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Fruit &, citrus tree spikes for grape vines
I have 4 grape vines with a 32’ tall grape trellis. The trellis is on the back of my 4x4 trailer and I will be mowing the lawn of my neighbors to keep the weeds down, so I thought I would try my hand at creating a grapevine from a grape vine so I didn’t have to buy a new trellis, (it’s much easier with a trellis) and I thought the spikes could be good for me since I have 5 acres of fruit trees. The problem is I have 4 different sized trees and not 1 parent tree for all of them so I don’t know if I have to plant the larger (trunk) tree’s near the middle of the vineyard or towards the ends. There’s not a good central line as this property is so large that I want it to look like it’s grown organically because that’s my goal. If anyone has experience or knowledge of this I would greatly appreciate it.
Also, I just don’t want to kill the tree because there will be fruit on the small (trunk) trees later this season.
I love the look of this scheme. It must be one of the few trellisings that does not infringe on the structure of the tree itself (loosely that is) as a post or spike in the trunk tends to curl back up and around the tree trunk. A few years back we were told not to prune grapevine for 4-6 years but that might have changed since the PGRPs are constantly reinventing themselves. The moral of the story: get used to never knowing. Of course I’m shooting a little spitball here as I’ve not seen your species of trees but if you give it some thought, the way I’m seeing it, you’re setting the pattern up to kill a few trees and end up losing them all. Also, have you considered removing the tree for it’s value as a high structure rather than a stand alone in a few years. If so, you would be aware that it is one of the few tree species with limited rooting and growth even in deep soils, so the temptation of it’s beautiful foliage, especially at this time of year, may play on your emotions. Also, before pruning the tree, there are good commercial pruners that take the bark to stimulate tree growth so it would be to your benefit to take a look. This tree could just be a crazy looking orchid for all we know. I can only guess as I’ve never seen your trees. I know our nursery, whoever owns the nursery, grows a number of your grapes, this is a small percentage. I will leave it at that. Happy gardening!
Thanks for the response, and yes, I did consider removing the tree but I didn’t want to replace it because my children and I like to spend time with it.
I have thought about getting professional help to prune and spray the tree. Just a year ago my husband got professional help to prune the trees for our wedding. This will be the third year that we’ve been growing them.
I didn’t know the difference between grapevines and figs, but it sounds like they’re completely different.
Yes, I did try to remove the grapevines. A family friend had me send him the pictures and he sent me a different suggestion. Unfortunately, we don’t have a dojo in our neighborhood and he knows a few black belts that are grumpy. Since I’m more worried about weeds than trees, I’m going to take his advice and try the non-dojo option.
I have never seen you tree before. Could be that you have a different kind of a grape that doesn’t require this kind of pruning. In many cases on tree spikes, whether it’s grape or cherry or whatever, the trees put up with the pruning and won’t let on.
I don’t think you can cut that much. When you find the spike, cut off the end and angle it down until it touches the ground and does not bend back. That way you will get plenty of roots and the soil is more stable for the vines.
Grapevines are very thirsty and don’t like to be wet in spring and again in the fall. That is the reason for those spikes.
Yep, I’m growing 10+ different varieties of grapes and other fruit. The grapes need to be pruned only once or twice a year because they’re so bushy. You’re right about grapevines being thirsty because that’s the first thing I look at and what I try to avoid.